Is it trite or just wrong to cast Tuchel and his team as avengers at the Azteca? Whatever the case, the manager is on board with the sentiment.
It is as if he believes he can harness something from the memory.
"It will reward us," says Thomas Tuchel, Manager. "We will get it back.
Karma will come back for us. We will turn it around."
Like every football obsessive, Tuchel loves to reminisce about his childhood World Cup memories.
Mexico 86 made an impression on him and it all goes into the mix for Sunday's showpiece.
He talks about the strong Soviet Union team from that tournament which lost 4-3 after extra time to Belgium in a last-16 epic.
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"I remember Vasyl Rats [of the Soviet Union] and then Jan Ceulemans for Belgium," says Thomas Tuchel, Manager.
"I also remember the thing that was hanging in the centre of the Azteca and the shadow from it never moved.
The sun was so steep that the shadow was always around the middle circle.
I remember the coffee table book that came from the World Cup, the pictures of this stadium and all these flags … and how steep it was."
The German tactician embraces the history of the venue, finding a deep connection to the historic photographs lining the walls of England's current headquarters.
"It's an iconic stadium. Germany played there in the final.
